New to Instances: Dont have sa of newly created instance

A new instance has been setup on one of our pilot servers. I do not have th
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sa password to that instance, and it appears that the group who set up the
instance also removed the built-in/admin group. Am I doomed to never access
this instance?
Should I bring flowers, donoughts AND cookies when begging for the sa
password?I would suggest that you get those that built it to come back and fix it.
The sa password will only help if the thing is running in mixed mode - you
can change this if you are an admin on the windows box by changing the
registry key for LoginMode of the instance (do a search down the
hkey_localmachine\software path) and changing the value to 2, then stopping
and restarting the sql server service.
You could also ask if they set up another admin group before deleting
built-in/admin, and get into it.
Good luck
Mary Bray [SQL Server MVP]
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"wxd" <wxd@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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>A new instance has been setup on one of our pilot servers. I do not have
>the
> sa password to that instance, and it appears that the group who set up the
> instance also removed the built-in/admin group. Am I doomed to never
> access
> this instance?
> Should I bring flowers, donoughts AND cookies when begging for the sa
> password?|||Thank you for the response. Checking on what you wrote, I found the
LoginMode is already set to 2, and my administrator still receives a "failed
login" message when attempting to connect to the instance through Windows
Authentication. I did not think it was possible to lock out the net admin
group?
"Mary Bray" wrote:

> I would suggest that you get those that built it to come back and fix it.
> The sa password will only help if the thing is running in mixed mode - you
> can change this if you are an admin on the windows box by changing the
> registry key for LoginMode of the instance (do a search down the
> hkey_localmachine\software path) and changing the value to 2, then stoppin
g
> and restarting the sql server service.
> You could also ask if they set up another admin group before deleting
> built-in/admin, and get into it.
> Good luck
> --
> Mary Bray [SQL Server MVP]
> Please reply only to newsgroups
> "wxd" <wxd@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:81522A36-6D2E-4532-9593-2E194D8638EF@.microsoft.com...
>
>|||NEVERMIND! Thank you very much for your assistance.
I have found out what this instance is and am discovering that all SQL logic
no longer applies. This is an ACT! installation. ACT! installs an extremel
y
hacked up version of the SQL engine. It is my understanding that the normal
SQL login processes are not present on the server for me to get into this
instance. The company that produces ACT desperately wants people to use
their client vs. any other tool to access their database.
Thank you for your help and insight.
"Mary Bray" wrote:

> I would suggest that you get those that built it to come back and fix it.
> The sa password will only help if the thing is running in mixed mode - you
> can change this if you are an admin on the windows box by changing the
> registry key for LoginMode of the instance (do a search down the
> hkey_localmachine\software path) and changing the value to 2, then stoppin
g
> and restarting the sql server service.
> You could also ask if they set up another admin group before deleting
> built-in/admin, and get into it.
> Good luck
> --
> Mary Bray [SQL Server MVP]
> Please reply only to newsgroups
> "wxd" <wxd@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:81522A36-6D2E-4532-9593-2E194D8638EF@.microsoft.com...
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